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Mitigation tactics targeting work-place violence scenarios

The use of Emergency Response System (remote transmitter devices) and Panic/Code-Words by select personnel, facility wide, and nation wide as mitigation targeting serious work-place violence scenarios (e.g. Gun-threats at Government Buildings & School).

HYPOTHESIS: A Panic/Code Word in combination with a transmitter device and well orchestrated contingency plans may prove to be highly effective measures to decreasing loss of life in violent scenarios.

QUESTION-1: (LONG-TERM MITIGATION) Should an effort be undertaken to enhance pre-existing protection systems and aid the event outcome in favor of the facility & staff by implementing Personal Emergency Response System remote transmitter devices to select CERT members, teachers, government workers, and personnel of critical infrastructure? (To wear/use to prevent fatalities due to human fear, error, and delayed response of specialized personnel).

*Examples of Emergency Response System remote transmitter devices: (A Panic Button/Device) like “First Response,” or “First Alert,” but altered (to meet the scope of the facility needs, & local response team capabilities). This is a transmitter alert system warn by specific facility employees that will activate an alert when a button is depressed.

QUESTION-2: (SHORT-TERM MITIGATION) Should a “Panic-Word” be used within facilities to covertly indicate to other employees and a response team that an (e.g. shooter is on the premises)=>initiate Emergency Plans.

FULL ARTICLE HERE: http://uscsrh.ideascale.com/a/dtd/IDEAS-TO-MITIGATE-SCHOOL-WORKPLACE-GUN-VIOLENCE-SCENARIOS/62728-29117

Submitted by 1 year ago

Comments (12)

  1. I am thinking this may be a good idea, but what is the cost and has it ever been done before? Panic words have been used and are still used in some schools and businesses. I can also see miss use of the device if it was lost or stolen.

    1 year ago
  2. I would like to thank you for giving answers to my questions and a thank you for caring for the people that could be in harms way. Most ideas on this forum seem to go unanswered or lost to be never heard from again. Keep pushing this on as many forums as you can to keep adults and children from harm.

    1 year ago
  3. Aaron Littlefield Idea Submitter

    Thank you Sir (Mr. Logue),

    I appreciate your kind words! IdeaScale is a great Open Source initiative, and I will definitely be using this website as intended. I'm NEW here at Idea Scale, so I'm still figuring a few things out (I discovered recently that there are multiple posts that you can no longer comment on=> (because the campaign is over)=>I had suggestions ready for some old posts, but I joined Idea Scale too late to comment on some of them. I'm an avid reader, I will systematically sift through all posts as soon as I can.

    I just looked to see if you have any topics I should read, but I see you have not posted anything yet=>I hope you do post, I’m sure you have many experiences and “Lessons Learned” that could benefit others (if you articulate them in the form of an Idea).

    I see diverse viewpoints here=> (e.g. Information Technology (IT) professionals seem to put an IT framework twist on non-IT topics, it is kind of interesting/amusing). If I see something that seems like a great Idea here, I will reference it at other websites with similar topics, (that way like-minded people are more likely to connect).

    As a "Long-Term Perspective," I am reluctant to post any negative comments, because Idea Scale appears to be in a growth phase still, and as you know (from psychology), negative conditioning can nip the Idea Creativity process in the bud. (E.g. today an individual may post a marginal topic, but next month they may post something amazing)=> If I crush their creative spirit by being too hypercritical, they may quit=> we could loose potential IdeaScale-forum-growth (of content and great future posts)=> and perhaps some posts are abandoned for said reasons.

    My purpose here at Idea Scale will be to utilize this opportunity to enhance national preparedness, and currently to act as (a volunteer or functionary to add value as precise content, and awareness topics). I will try to analyze and objectively assess the possibility, plausibility, feasibility, and logistics of all posts, however, some of the posted information is beyond my current knowledgebase, therefore, I can only be a student or observer within those threads. My preferred method of addressing topics is with an assertion=> then proving the assertion, or with rational arguments then=>point to References, Organizations, or Policy (similar to the way the user “mjcyranwd6alm” does).

    I must admit that I am utilizing technology in multiple ways (for my endeavors) to develop national preparedness capabilities. I use a system to manage projects, a Knowledge Management system, and software to “follow-up” (anything that I post)=>no post is ever abandoned. Also, I use software to map out nodes, viewpoints, connectivity, deficiencies, and statistics at various Preparedness websites, (when I find a lack of coverage=> I attempt to fill the void). Unfortunately, abandoned posts are a big problem for many forums...If your endeavors require (communications or incentive information) or research, I discuss the importance of communication, reporting, and the follow-up of posts (with solutions) at this link: http://community.fema.gov/connect.ti/readynpm/messageshowthread?threadid=37518

    I also discuss keeping programs alive with incentives at this link:

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    (enjoy as you wish)

    If you have any more questions on topics I post, please ask them, they may help me clarify something I haven't thought of!

    1 year ago
  4. When I worked in a hospital if we ever heard a page for 'Dr. Lindbergh' we were alerted to the fact that someone was trying to take a baby (usually the mother who had been told by CPS that she could not take the baby home).

    1 year ago
  5. Fort Hood shooting is a sad example of why we need to take this problem very seriously...

    1 year ago
  6. There are various alerting systems that work very well, need maintained and people trained and retrained in their use. The response to the alerts by trained security personnel can be from 5 to 15 minutes depending on the circumstances. The shootings in several schools, the Navy Yard and Hood show how long that can be and how many fatalities and wounded people are the result. My solution is unacceptable to many but I am a firm believer in allowing responsible citizens to be armed. If schoolteachers, hospital workers, and especially our service members were permitted to carry it would substantially reduce the number of people killed and convince others to forget about their plans to start shooting otherwise unarmed victims.

    Jay Roland

    1 year ago
  7. Agree with you JR...you can carry a weapon in another country but you can't be trusted to carry a weapon on base? If you are a Tier 1 operator you should be able to carry anywhere!

    1 year ago
  8. Aaron Littlefield Idea Submitter

    Thank you for your valuable feedback Mr. Roland and Mr. Nakapalau, I will attempt to further elaborate my decision criteria for selecting the “Alert System” as a mitigation strategy.

    CLARIFICATIONS:

    The Alert System would call upon Local Police, and/or SWAT or other personnel whom are already trained and may escalate capabilities and actions as they determine necessary.

    CONCESSION:

    I understand your response, and you are correct, having a gun available could be helpful (SOMETIMES). I am a gun owner, (I am not a member of a gun organization). I participated in hunting activities throughout my youth and young adulthood, and feel that I could protect and/or positively affect (a few scenarios) but the vast majority I could not.

    PROBLEM DETERMINATION:

    I took an obsessive approach to my assessment of the workplace violence potential (scenarios, outcomes, and solutions) prior to creating this “Alert System” mitigation option. I also examined a variety of simplified hypothetical scenarios and I’ve listed several of them below for the reader’s considerations. My findings were that utilizing protective staff (whom possess a gun) in school or at a facility, yielded multiple dilemmas. Please consider the following dilemmas and (”shooter” / bad guy / threat vector) scenarios:

    1. LEGISLATION:

    Hypothetically, if the current State or local legislation prohibits (will not permit) a gun in the school or a given building in question, then a gun at school is not an option until the law is redressed.

    SOLUTION=> Plan-B utilize an “alert system” to mitigate violent scenarios.

    2. PROFESSIONAL SHOOTER SCENARIO:

    Hypothetically, if the business or school were infiltrated with (e.g. 4 highly trained para-military armed men with body armor and riot shield type equipment), would the presents of a staff member with a gun lead to… premature and uncontrolled escalation? Who is your back-up? What is the strategy?

    SOLUTION=> ALERT THE NEGOTIATOR + SWAT +/- TASK FORCE WITH MULTIPLE OPTIONS (e.g. canisters, breaching capabilities, thermal and UAV recon options) +LOCAL POLICE.

    3. MULTI-FACETED THREAT SCENARIO:

    Hypothetically, what if the shooter ALSO has a bomb…how will having a gun help to disarm a bomb? (it won’t)

    SOLUTION=> ALERT THE NEGOTIATOR + SWAT + ATF/BOMB TEAM +LOCAL POLICE.

    4. HOSTAGE SCENARIO:

    Hypothetically, at a (e.g. elementary school) what if the (shooter/bad guy) takes a hostage? Will the staff member with the gun be trained to de-escalate or calm the shooter? Will the staff member with the gun be trained to “read the danger signs” and meet or exceed the shooters expectations.

    SOLUTION=> ALERT THE SWAT + HOSTAGE NEGOTIATOR +LOCAL POLICE

    5. IDEOLOGY WITH DEMANDS SCENARIO:

    Hypothetically, what if the shooter is at the building because they represent “a Cause or irrational Ideology,” and therefore have demands they want carried out? How will you meet, exceed, or pacify the shooters demands if the demands involve execution of tasks external to the incident site?

    SOLUTION=> ALERT THE SWAT + NEGOTIATOR + LOCAL POLICE

    6. MARTYDOM SCENARIO:

    Hypothetically, what if the shooter is on the premises to “kill as many people as possible”? What is your plan to thwart or limit injuries, causalities, and collateral damage?

    SOLUTION=> ALERT THE NEGOTIATOR/OR SPECIAL PSYCOLOGIST + SWAT + CC SNIPER + CANISTER OPTIONS +LOCAL POLICE

    7. INTELLIGENT ATTACKER OR RESOURCEFUL CRIMINAL SCENARIO: Hypothetically, what if the shooter has been conducting reconnaissance on the business or school, has an elaborate plan, and knows the habits of the individual holding the protective gun, and can therefore adjust accordingly to avoid detection?

    SOLUTION=> upon detection, ALERT THE SWAT + NEGOTIATOR +LOCAL POLICE

    8. INSIDER ATTACK SCENARIO:

    Hypothetically, what if the (shooter/threat vector) works directly with the staff member who has the protective gun, and swiftly shoots them in the back. OR what if the shooter’s plan all along was to GAIN THE POSITION OF SECURITY STATUS, and the “protector” is now the “threat” and is the only one with a gun and turns it on the people he/she is suppose to be protecting.

    SOLUTION=> IT IS CRITICAL TO ALERT EXTERNAL FORCES + NEGOTIATOR + SWAT +LOCAL POLICE

    9. CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGIC SCENARIO:

    Hypothetically, what if the mode of attack on the business is a gun and chemical or biologic agents, (how will having a gun help)? (it won’t)

    SOLUTION=> ALERT AND INITIATE LOCAL EMERGENCY CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL SAFETY PLAN + THE APPROPRIATE CONTAINMENT TEAM + SWAT + LOCAL POLICE +…

    10. (INGRESS/EGRESS) & EXTERNAL COLLATERAL DAMAGE CONTROL ISSUES:

    Hypothetically, if the solitary staff member with the gun is confronted with a “shooter on the premises” scenario, who will secure the external environment of the premises to ensure that additional innocent people will NOT enter the building (and/or enter the potential hazard zone). Who will control the evacuation from the building? (NOTE: Pulling the fire alarm could result in an innocent person walking towards the shooter)

    SOLUTION=> ALERTING THE LOCAL POLICE and others who will lock-down a perimeter, and assist with securing the evacuation procedures.

    *OTHER BARRIERS REGARDING QUALITY AND ATTRIBUTES OF PERSONNEL GIVEN THE DUTY TO CARRY A GUN ON PREMISES AND PROTECT A FACILITY/SCHOOL:

    (Assumptions noted- The personnel's quality, knowledge, training, experience and other attributes could certainly make a difference in a crisis)

    1. LAWS REGULATING STAFF WITH GUNS:

    What laws and oaths protect and enable a non-government staff member to function in their protective role with a gun on premises? What constitutional or amended protections do they enjoy? What is their clear line of command and duties for the facility as acting “protector”? Will they use a properly defined system with values, codes of conduct, and uniform communications? Does this new position conflict with any agency? What policies or labor laws apply (e.g. OSHA, drug-free workplace, occupational safety, sex offender, criminal record, service record/discharge status, mental examination, HIPPA/Privacy/Freedom of Info Act)

    2. CURRENT AND CONTINUED TRAINING & PROGRAM MAINTANENCE:

    What is the level of training of the staff member holding the protective gun in the (e.g. school)? Can they delay or thwart the attack? Can they react well to hostage scenarios? Can they navigate if tear gas were employed? Can they circumvent or handle hostile shooter coercion tactics (e.g. put down your gun or I will start shooting hostages)? Are they prepared to kill the shooter if the shooter turns the gun on them or innocent bystanders? How many times per week will they train, practice scenarios, shoot targets, and prepare?

    3. VETTING, PERSONAL CONDITION, AND CAPABILITIES:

    How will the “protectors” vetting be conducted, and/or what system will they be confidentially reported to? What capabilities are to be considered “basic or essential" to the position of gun holder and protector. Will they be performing randomized patrols and security checks? What are the health requirements of the staff member with the gun, can they carry a child out of harms way if the child freezes and won’t move, (can they be epileptic, or physically impaired). How fast are they? Can they shoot well? Will the staff member with the gun be trained to subdue and detain the threat vector. What if the shooter sets a fire, can a single individual with a gun (protect the innocent, put out a fire, and fight a shooter all at the same time)?

    4. KNOWLEDGEBASE:

    Are the requirements & qualifications of the personnel clearly defined? What type of criminal justice training will enable them to best recognize the threat as early as possible and initiate early contingencies? Should they receive First Aid, CPR, EPA standard knowledge for containment issues, Personal protective Equipment & Blood Born Pathogen mandatory training as relates to handling the potentially wounded victims? Should they possess gorilla warfare training and tactics to stalk and flank the enemy? When is it critical to take the threat vector “alive” if possible (e.g. is the shooter holding hostages alive in another bunker external to this incident site, or a bomb)?

    5. EXPERIENCE:

    What are the minimum functional and experiential requirements for the position of protector and possession of a gun on premises? What aspects of a performance work statement (PWS) or (SOW) or objectives will be regarded as “DEMONSTRATED CAPABILITY” or "PROOF" of effective capability and acceptable performance parameters?

    6. EQUIPMENT:

    What type of weapon will they be issued? Is it fair to give the protective security staff member a 9mm semi-auto pistol when the attacker(s) may have sub-machine guns? What types of equipment should they be able to utilize and/or improvise? What technology and communications systems should they use (e.g. HAM radio) and who would they communicate with (if they are the only one with a protective gun)? What mechanical equipment (property/resources) are available or restricted or “prohibited use” within the facility? What if the phone-lines are cut prior to the attack should they have a cellphone as well?

    7. COST:

    How are metrics and statistics used to justify costs (e.g. Local Budget, Cost Accounting Standards Administration, GAO)? Are the Supply Chain sources and services for the weapons and resources clearly defined and standardized? Is there a comparable value that could be achieved by hiring external groups (e.g. Pinkerton)? Is the staff member to be contractual with a renewable end of service date (and if so what is the basis for renewal)? Under major emergency circumstances or for socioeconomic reasons is it clearly defined if the school or facility can acquire federal resources to protect themselves and/or procure guns?

    8. OVERSIGHT:

    Will there be any auditing, quality assurance, research, and development of Facility “protective staff” programs and training? Who will administer the Performance Audit/Assessment of protective staff including general value, strengths, weaknesses, better, faster, or cheaper options? What previous assessments exist regarding application of guns in facilities with (project effectiveness), and what metrics were used? What criteria are used to gauge how personnel quality and quantity at the incident impacts the capabilities at the facility?

    9. AFTER ACTION/INCIDENT REPORTING:

    Hypothetically, what if the staff member with the gun made the “wrong call" or acted too aggressively (e.g. Dirty Harry) and a child was injured or killed in the process? How would after action reporting be handled if the staff member with the gun does not have associated support staff and Internal Review staff? Who will review the case? How will the line of succession or continuity of operations (staffing) be maintained, (e.g. the individual will be given leave after the incident, then their actions will be reviewed) who will replace them? What will their capabilities be? How many staff members will be trained (and retained) to assume the role of protector/security guard and keeper of the gun (at least 2)?

    ***********************************************

    IMPRESSIONS:

    This clarification was not all inclusive, however, my observations and examples should have helped readers discover the technical challenges and barriers associated with work place violent scenarios. My conclusion is (due to the magnitude of potential/possible threats and vectors), highly trained professionals (external to the facility) such as (e.g. Local police, and SWAT) should be called/utilized (in all cases), and can best “Augment” and escalate capabilities in most situations (especially Highly Technical situation). Furthermore, since guns and challenges have provoked debates that have stalled the solution process, I am representing the “push button Alert System” as the current best option to mitigate the widest range of violent scenarios. Please objectively considering the aspects stated above, I believe the “assumption” that utilizing a lay person (with a gun) to protect a facility/school, could actually be an infamous decision, and lead to a very bad outcome. Even in the event that a highly trained individual is utilized to protect a facility, they will need legal provisions, resources, and external support to meet or exceed all escalations.

    **************************************************

    Other references:

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

    1 year ago
    1. It appears, Mr. Littlefield, that you have much too much time on your hands given the length of your response. I agree notification is always good. However it is well known that the outside sources will always be 5 to 10 minutes away while you are in the situation right now. You can certainly shoot yourself in the foot, and the admin person could become the shooter. You can imagine a lot of scenarios. You did not mention any that might be handled immediately if guns were permitted to be carried. Sure you don't have little bias? I don't need a lengthy response, just hope you think on this side of the fence for a moment.

      Jay Roland.

      1 year ago
  9. Aaron Littlefield Idea Submitter

    Hello again Mr. Roland,

    *******************************KEEP THIS RATIO IN MIND************************************

    (139,204 Schools) : (7,990 School Firearm + Explosive annual crimes) : (? # of Security)

    ****************************************************************************************************

    SUBJECT:

    The number of available Security personnel to protect said schools is contemplated below…

    -

    PERSONAL NOTE:

    Thank you for your feedback, participating, and for reading my long blurb. I chuckled when you said “to much time on my hands” (I wish)=>A “ground hogs day” would be nice=>I have a huge backlog, but I’m making time (at a cost to my sleep/finances unfortunately) to advocate this issue until it is resolved. I promise and swear that I don't have a bias, heck I've been attacked several times in foreign countries, and a gun would have definitely been handy to have (so I do know what you mean). I will stand on what ever side of the fence that can protect kids and public officials "right now / right away"...If at a later time our Nation can secure a Novel new security team to occupy schools, then so be it.

    -

    TOPIC CONTENT:

    As stated before, "contextually speaking" in the U.S. there are barriers to protecting schools (e.g. logistical complexities, legislative constraints, budget issues, special interest groups, personnel quality and capability issues). I realized last week that since you know about "Tier-1," then you know about Delta Force capabilities, or other Special Forces tactics that can not be executed by lay people with guns... There are many options, consider the following stats for forces with Tier-1 options, and other Security personnel:

    1. Go to FedScope and discover the small number of highly trained official protection professionals here: http://www.fedscope.opm.gov/ibmcognos/cgi-bin/cognosisapi.dll

    RESULT=> (NOT POSSIBLE) They are paid >$100,000 per year plus bonuses, therefore, we can’t afford them to sit in a school.

    2. The U.S. is estimated to have (17,000) private professional protection contract personnel (see Merks-In-America for details).

    RESULT=> (NOT POSSIBLE) They are mostly oversees and are paid >$100,000 per year plus bonuses, therefore, we can’t afford them to sit in a school.

    3. The U.S. estimated number of police (79,210) available at the local level, see Dept of Labor and Stats: http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes331012.htm

    RESULT=> There is not enough police to sit in (all schools) all day (139,204 : 79,210). Also, most departments have serious budget and staff shortages, so we probably can’t pool ANY of them to set-up camp all day within a business or school.

    4. Army National Guard (~5,200 old census data)

    RESULT=> They couldn’t even cover the number of crimes each year (7,990crimes : 5,200guards)

    http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/589_national_guard_summary.html

    5. Cost Guard 2,828 protective occupations/personnel

    RESULT=> They couldn’t even cover the number of crimes each year (7,990crimes : 2,828guards)

    http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Military/Military-Careers.htm

    6. Pinkerton Services are a possibility!

    RESULT=> (unknown- capabilities, stats, and costs) & …Unknown coverage- how will we spread them out to cover schools or businesses?

    7. SWAT and other protective services are beyond the scope of this assessment.

    -

    IMPRESSION:

    In my minds eye, when I envision Lay people with guns, I foresee security failure (of the delegated in-house security person) due to ineffective execution of (e.g. They are under-trained and unsupported, will NOT be able to apply deadly force when necessary thereby compromising the incident, they will fail to negotiate release of hostages, they will lack agility, resourcefulness, tactical, strategic, physical offensive-defense training, and will not have (anywhere near) the specialized capability that specialized security groups would (mentioned above). If you truly compare numbers, the results point towards a “Plan-B” which is a system that will alert specialists.

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    TOPIC STATISTICS: (the newest ones that I could find)

    NUMBER OF GRADES K-12 SCHOOLS IN THE U.S.= 132,183

    NUMBER OF COLLEGES IN THE U.S.= 7,021

    2010-11 SOURCE REFERENCE: (TOTAL SCHOOLS TO PROTECT= 139,204)

    http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d12/tables/dt12_005.asp

    SCHOOL CRIME STATS:

    2008 School Crime and safety survey:

    =>Number of all students committing Firearms or Explosive crimes: 7,990

    http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/ssocs/tables/all_2008_tab_15.asp?referrer=css

    2012 Indicators of School Crime and Safety

    =>Contains a wide range of school crime statistics:

    http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2013/2013036.pdf

    2004 School Survey on Crime and Safety (SSOCS)

    =>contains a quick table visualization of numbers and major threats at schools:

    http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/ssocs/tables/el_2004_tab_23.asp

    Other school crime table Index:

    http://nces.ed.gov/programs/crime/crime_tables.asp

    ****************************************************************************************************

    1 year ago
  10. Aaron Littlefield Idea Submitter

    CLARIFICATIONS:

    *********************************************************************************************

    CLARIFICATION-1:

    (Alert System Button Remote Transmitter with Code Word <=>Versus<=> a Cellphone)

    =>The Alert System Button would be designed to help officials determine that the threat is real (and is not a “prank call”).

    =>The Alert System Button would be easy to conceal, and initiatiate an emergency response without words.

    =>The Alert System Button would be warn on a small necklace around the neck. In the event that the individual doesn’t have access to a phone, or can’t use the phone without being caught, they can press their emergency button.

    *********************************************************************************************

    CLARIFICATION-2:

    (Alert System Button Remote Transmitter with Code Word <=>Versus<=> a staff member with a gun)

    =>Activating the Alert System Button will call multiple emergency personnel, this is discussed in Section-1.

    =>The challenges a staff member would have with a gun in the event that a shooter is on premises is discussed in Section-2.

    *********************************************************************************************

    CLARIFICATION-3:

    (KEEP THESE NUMBERS IN MIND)

    1. TOTAL NUMBER OF U.S. SCHOOLS: 139,204 Schools

    2. TOTAL ANNUAL INCIDENCES OF SCHOOL (FIREARM+EXPLOSIVE) EVENTS: 7,990 events annually

    3. TOTAL NUMBER OF U.S. SECURITY PERSONNEL AVAILABLE TO PROTECT SCHOOLS FROM GUN VIOLENCE: (?)… (To be discussed below in Section-2)

    *********************************************************************************************

    THE ALERT SYSTEM IS ALSO DISCUSS AT THE NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS COMMUNITY HERE:

    http://community.fema.gov/connect.ti/readynpm/view?objectId=109515

    1 year ago
  11. The theory is good as far as intents and purpose but the application may fail because of RF interference by commercial lighting, the presence of licensed radio services, or any combination of PART-15 devices in use in the time of need.

    7 months ago

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